Reckon he’s got some explaining to do.
If he was able to walk down the High Street in Dunfermline in that get up without getting a kicking I’ll doff my cap. No chance in Ballingry.
I’m assuming he‘d grown out of this long before he caught Mariellas eye.
So I promised @Walkerinthesun the story of my social interactions with Richard J, so here goes.
I'll be honest, I used to share you're opinion of Jobson.......until I got to know him a tiny bit.
Back story (which I'm sure I've told on here before) good pal of mine, I was best man at his wedding 86ish, moved down to that London, did VERY well for himself, semi-retired very young.
He's a wannabe writer, had a couple of little bits and pieces published.
I should've mentioned, Andy, my mate.............massive Skids fan.
Andy decides to take a script writing/ film making class that Jobson was running.
Long story short they became pals.
Andy part funded some projects Richard was involved in, they lunched together at The Groucho etc.
2010 Andy and I were guest listed to one of the comeback shows, The Alhambra in Dunfermline, saw the soundcheck, got invited back stage.
Great gig, back stage for drinks afterwards.
This gig was part of a festival (can't recall the name) promoting Fife. Jobbers was involved in this, so when I met him afterwards he was in "working the room" mode and he did nothing to change my opinion that he was a bit of an arse.
Had a decent chat with Bill Simpson the bass player.
He was working as an estate agent "Cannae all be fucking film directors" ws his take, right nice guy.
Fast forward to 2017 (I think) another guest list at The Glen Pavillion in Dunfermline, beautiful setting BTW.
Met Richard again post gig, saw a different side to him.
Relaxed, just a bloke having a beer after his work.
Decent company, great night.
Next step on the journey 2019, The Lemon Tree in Aberdeen.
Andy organised four of us onto the guest list and to see the sound check again.
It became a mini reunion, the four of us used to cut about during our school days, went to a few gigs together, including The Skids, as teenagers.
One of our number, Duncan, is now a minister.
More on that later.....
The gig was on a Saturday, Richard was flying up early Saturday due to filming commitments.
He was playing Alan McGhee's Dad in the movie "Creation Story".
We had to meet Richard in town as he didn't know where the venue was.
We met him, hit the sound check, then he joined us for a pre gig curry, though he only had a few pieces of pakora as he had to "dance badly" later.
He was absolutely brilliant company, self effacing (told us his nickname at school was "Pelican Puss" due to his large chin), interesting, engaging.
He told us that the movie guys had tried to get him to have temporary "King Billy" tattoos for the roll, McGhee's Dad was a big Orangeman apparently, diehard Celtic fan, he flatly refused.
He has a place in Berlin where he lives periodically.
It's in quite a rundown, Bohemian area of the city.
His daughter reckoned the area was getting a bit gentrified.
He'd been walking home fairly recently and met a guy taking a shit........said guy asking him if he had any toilet paper.
"So.....not gentrified then" was his take on the incident.
At the gig Richard regaled the crowd with tales that "Aberdeen's only punk minister" was in the crowd.
Next time he came back to Aberdeen he mentioned Duncan in a press interview.
So, nice guy, good company, changed my opinion of him.
This is a record I'll continue to listen to. It's got everything I love about the post-punk music of the time that came out of the UK. If getting familiar with an under-played album I've had in my library for some time is all I get from these album selections, that's good enough for me.
I find it hard to categorise music, I am much like Mr Rat in that either I like it or I don't. However, when I listened to this a couple of days ago, my first thought was that it was a punk album, but then what is punk - The Clash, The Jam, The Stranglers? Not sure I know. I think a lot of music features angry young men, probably more often than angry young women and I have never really thought about why this might be. Generally, i like angry stuff. The recent Sam Fender album is angry, Tom Morello's collaborations with Bruce really bring out the angry side of his music. Maybe men have a different way of expressing anger, I don't know. I'm just rambling now, so I will stop!
Getting back to this album, I listened again with the lyrics in front of me and enjoyed it more. My first listen without the lyrics I was just experiencing the music and rhythm, with the lyrics it takes on new meaning.
Thanks @MagicRatAFC , an excellent start to the album club.
Maybe men have a different way of expressing anger, I don't know. I'm just rambling now, so I will stop!
I read somewhere that girls talk more, share the impacts of various traumatic events. Boys don't talk to each other, not really about the deep and heavy stuff. Then they explode, and we have punk and all other angry music. A medium for their frustration. This is very simplified but can be one of the reasons for angry music.
I think this is what I loved about the early U2, Alarm and Big Country music. I think for an American kid, the young bands coming out of the UK in the early 80s had a certain martial quality, like they all had something worth fighting about and I wanted something worth fighting about.
they all had something worth fighting about and I wanted something worth fighting about.
I guess this is exactly why I can't relate to this music, and why I believe understanding the need to fight, and consequently loving punk, is a male thing.
I might have some kind of genre detection defect. I know this band is classified as punk, but to me it's too melodic to actually be punk. The Alarm and early U2 were considered punk, too, but never by me. I mean, there's the punk attitude, but these UK bands of that period that I still listen to today just don't sound like what I consider true punk.
I've listened to the album twice, I do believe it's a great punk album, sadly it's the genre I find uncomfortable listening to.
It was never the kind of music I could connect with, maybe I was born too late, but more likely, I just never identified with the thunderous, fast-paced, rebellious battlefield sound of it. The energy and noise are the backgrounds of some confessional and controversial lyrics, and I've always understood the anti-establishment themes and their importance. The blunt lyrics never bothered me unless there was violence or sexism, and there is plenty of both in punk, it's just overall too cold-hearted for me.
I guess there must be a real sense of catharsis in loud, angry music, and perhaps it's linked to masculinity. I don't believe it's a unisex music genre. I think the number of female punk bands maybe proves my point. If this makes any sense, I'd like to swap gender and listen to this record again. Perhaps this music would make more sense if I could understand the agony of the men writing it.
Fabulous album cover, very telling.
Thanks @MagicRatAFC for making me give punk another try..
I've listened at least eight times now and it's one of those albums that's good from start to finish. I haven't checked out the bonus tracks yet because I think for the sake of these discussions we should all listen to the original albums, but I'm itching to get at them soon.
The only other album I have is a best of, but I'm going to get the rest.
I finely listen to this album a couple nights ago, while Moma was away. OUT-FUCKING-STANDING!!!!! Just bought it and on the I-Pod
Another Skids-ish piece
I liked the album, but that picture will make it tough for me to listen to it again.
BTW @walkerinthesun that picture is on its way to Mr Jobson for further comments. 😁
I confess I had a combo not a million miles off what Stuart Adamson is wearing in that pic.
Wow.
Ooh, why's that big gap appeared at the bottom of the post?
So I promised @Walkerinthesun the story of my social interactions with Richard J, so here goes.
I'll be honest, I used to share you're opinion of Jobson.......until I got to know him a tiny bit.
Back story (which I'm sure I've told on here before) good pal of mine, I was best man at his wedding 86ish, moved down to that London, did VERY well for himself, semi-retired very young.
He's a wannabe writer, had a couple of little bits and pieces published.
I should've mentioned, Andy, my mate.............massive Skids fan.
Andy decides to take a script writing/ film making class that Jobson was running.
Long story short they became pals.
Andy part funded some projects Richard was involved in, they lunched together at The Groucho etc.
2010 Andy and I were guest listed to one of the comeback shows, The Alhambra in Dunfermline, saw the soundcheck, got invited back stage.
Great gig, back stage for drinks afterwards.
This gig was part of a festival (can't recall the name) promoting Fife. Jobbers was involved in this, so when I met him afterwards he was in "working the room" mode and he did nothing to change my opinion that he was a bit of an arse.
Had a decent chat with Bill Simpson the bass player.
He was working as an estate agent "Cannae all be fucking film directors" ws his take, right nice guy.
Fast forward to 2017 (I think) another guest list at The Glen Pavillion in Dunfermline, beautiful setting BTW.
Met Richard again post gig, saw a different side to him.
Relaxed, just a bloke having a beer after his work.
Decent company, great night.
Next step on the journey 2019, The Lemon Tree in Aberdeen.
Andy organised four of us onto the guest list and to see the sound check again.
It became a mini reunion, the four of us used to cut about during our school days, went to a few gigs together, including The Skids, as teenagers.
One of our number, Duncan, is now a minister.
More on that later.....
The gig was on a Saturday, Richard was flying up early Saturday due to filming commitments.
He was playing Alan McGhee's Dad in the movie "Creation Story".
We had to meet Richard in town as he didn't know where the venue was.
We met him, hit the sound check, then he joined us for a pre gig curry, though he only had a few pieces of pakora as he had to "dance badly" later.
He was absolutely brilliant company, self effacing (told us his nickname at school was "Pelican Puss" due to his large chin), interesting, engaging.
He told us that the movie guys had tried to get him to have temporary "King Billy" tattoos for the roll, McGhee's Dad was a big Orangeman apparently, diehard Celtic fan, he flatly refused.
He has a place in Berlin where he lives periodically.
It's in quite a rundown, Bohemian area of the city.
His daughter reckoned the area was getting a bit gentrified.
He'd been walking home fairly recently and met a guy taking a shit........said guy asking him if he had any toilet paper.
"So.....not gentrified then" was his take on the incident.
At the gig Richard regaled the crowd with tales that "Aberdeen's only punk minister" was in the crowd.
Next time he came back to Aberdeen he mentioned Duncan in a press interview.
So, nice guy, good company, changed my opinion of him.
This is a record I'll continue to listen to. It's got everything I love about the post-punk music of the time that came out of the UK. If getting familiar with an under-played album I've had in my library for some time is all I get from these album selections, that's good enough for me.
8.5 of 10.
I find it hard to categorise music, I am much like Mr Rat in that either I like it or I don't. However, when I listened to this a couple of days ago, my first thought was that it was a punk album, but then what is punk - The Clash, The Jam, The Stranglers? Not sure I know. I think a lot of music features angry young men, probably more often than angry young women and I have never really thought about why this might be. Generally, i like angry stuff. The recent Sam Fender album is angry, Tom Morello's collaborations with Bruce really bring out the angry side of his music. Maybe men have a different way of expressing anger, I don't know. I'm just rambling now, so I will stop!
Getting back to this album, I listened again with the lyrics in front of me and enjoyed it more. My first listen without the lyrics I was just experiencing the music and rhythm, with the lyrics it takes on new meaning.
Thanks @MagicRatAFC , an excellent start to the album club.
I don't want to come across as someone who believes that girls don't listen to punk music at all. They do, and they should.
And why have I begun this gender division of music... I apologize. Was just trying to identify the reasons for my dislike.
Yeah. That sounds right.
I'm not massive on genres TBH.
Generally I have two.......... "good" and "bad".
But, for what it's worth, I'd categorise The Skids, and probably The Alarm and Big Country, as "post punk".
Anyway, I adore this record and I'm glad others have taken positives also.
I love this album, @MagicRatAFC,
I think this is what I loved about the early U2, Alarm and Big Country music. I think for an American kid, the young bands coming out of the UK in the early 80s had a certain martial quality, like they all had something worth fighting about and I wanted something worth fighting about.
I might have some kind of genre detection defect. I know this band is classified as punk, but to me it's too melodic to actually be punk. The Alarm and early U2 were considered punk, too, but never by me. I mean, there's the punk attitude, but these UK bands of that period that I still listen to today just don't sound like what I consider true punk.
I've listened to the album twice, I do believe it's a great punk album, sadly it's the genre I find uncomfortable listening to.
It was never the kind of music I could connect with, maybe I was born too late, but more likely, I just never identified with the thunderous, fast-paced, rebellious battlefield sound of it. The energy and noise are the backgrounds of some confessional and controversial lyrics, and I've always understood the anti-establishment themes and their importance. The blunt lyrics never bothered me unless there was violence or sexism, and there is plenty of both in punk, it's just overall too cold-hearted for me.
I guess there must be a real sense of catharsis in loud, angry music, and perhaps it's linked to masculinity. I don't believe it's a unisex music genre. I think the number of female punk bands maybe proves my point. If this makes any sense, I'd like to swap gender and listen to this record again. Perhaps this music would make more sense if I could understand the agony of the men writing it.
Fabulous album cover, very telling.
Thanks @MagicRatAFC for making me give punk another try..
I've listened at least eight times now and it's one of those albums that's good from start to finish. I haven't checked out the bonus tracks yet because I think for the sake of these discussions we should all listen to the original albums, but I'm itching to get at them soon.
The only other album I have is a best of, but I'm going to get the rest.