ACROSS THE BORDER
Where the banned are
Away at 74.
RIP Big fella, you lived a life.
That made me misty eyed...
Listening to another of the better albums he did without Jim's involvement.
Bad Attitude does include two Steinman songs, Bad For Good's Surf's Up and Nowhere Fast from the film Streets Of Fire, and the rest of the tracks all come across as Steinman lite. It's a good collection of songs, though, a big step up from the previous two records, and it features my favorite non-Steinman Meat Loaf track, Modern Girl.
Bad Attitude was conceived and marketed as a return to form and though it's a long way from a Steinman reunion, it was the closest we could get at the time, boasts a duet with Roger Daltrey on the title track and spawned a decent tour.
I hate the amateurish album cover, but could have loved it if it had been properly executed. Using the Meat Loaf font from the Steinman albums was a good move, associating this record with bat Out Of Hell, but the paste job on the images is obvious and, oh man, the scale of the bike to the cars in the demo pile is way off. It's terrible. She's supposed to be sitting on top of the pile, but the cars are smaller than the bike. They did do a decent job of dressing out a real bike to resemble the Bat Out Of Hell motorcycle.
Currently listening to Live With The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra high on edibles and flower and it is fucking pyrosexualmaniacal.
Throughout my Meat Loaf library, I'm very anal about tagging Paradise By The Dashboard Light with the full title which is...
Paradise By The Dashboard Light (I. Paradise/II. Let Me Sleep On It/III. Praying for the End of Time)
I never knew Meat was a Monkey Hanger.
I don't think anyone would argue that Meat Loaf didn't do his best work with Jim Steinman and I know it's not a secret that his albums away from Jim are hit and miss. They vary from very bad (I'm looking at you Blind Before I Stop) to pretty damned good
(like Bad Attitude), sometimes from one track to the next not just album to album, but he did put out some good records. I think the key to the good ones is the level of competence of the songwriters who tried to imitate Steinman and the wisdom of those who knew they couldn't so didn't try to.
This was a record Meat Loaf was very proud of and I'm enjoying it right now.
I wish I had the review I posted on Greasy Lake when Braver Than We Are came out. I remember commenting that the only way the album was a good one was if it was their last, and it was, I also remember referring to the record as a tombstone and the cover art speaks volumes now that they're both gone..
I don't know how many of you have heard Stoney & Meat Loaf from 1971, before he was Steinmanized, but much of it is quite good, a sort of baroque/R&B hybrid. I think What You See Is What You Get is the only track to make it onto any Meat Loaf compilations, but I'd Love To Be As heavy As Jesus was the favorite and an ironic title for a guy who may well have been as heavy as Jesus.
I never knew Meat Loaf sang on Ted Nugents Free For All album .....
The whole second side. The best side of that dirtbag Nugent's career.
I was listening to Bad For Good just now, the Jim Steinman album that as I understand it would've been the follow up to Bat Out Of Hell except Meatloaf had voice issues.
JF mentioned at the time Jim passed that he thought Bad For Good was a better album than Bat. I agreed at the time and agree even more now.
That album, and Meatloaf's career, would've been stratosphere defying immense if that had been Meatloaf's follow up offering.
Absolutely, and yet I'm glad it's JIm's album, which I would never have wanted it to be if Meat had done it.
Add another one to the "my mind quickly went to Rick" posts.
I've always loved Meat Loaf's music, and I don't think I could say anything in here that I didn't say in tribute to Jim Steinman, or that hasn't already been said more touchingly above.
So honestly I don't know what to say. I'm gonna ramble a few thoughts and see where I land.
I'll admit that the news didn't stun me this morning given how he'd been in poor health for a while and how Steinman's death seemed to impact him enormously. It felt like the hour glass was ticking away for a long time, so I think that explains why I've just felt a sense of acceptance about this. To the extent that I'm now dreading how I'll feel when, I'm not even gonna finish that. Still, Meat's been on my mind all day and I've been singing everything from "For Crying Out Loud" to his verse in Tenacious D's "Kickapoo" because quite simply his music and whatever he lent his voice to was mint.
Oh, and I remember being very traumatised at Tim Curry hacking him to bits watching Rocky Horror when I was little, so I like to think Meat prepared us for this day in a "how bad can it be?" kind way.
"Hot patootie bless my soul, I really love your rock and roll." Damn right. Rest well, Meat.
@Early North Jersey Do they still do the midnight showings with participation? I heard maybe twenty years ago that many theaters were cracking down on some of the participation. I only went twice and didn't know the routines, but it was something to behold.
@Jerseyfornia I have seen one or two ads for Rocky Horror nights in the last 10 years but its definitely not a regular thing.
I have to admit ( and i may have been "a little" high at the time ...But i got such a kick out of throwing crap all over the movie theater ....We even added our own wrinkle and would grab a package of Frankfurters and launch those at the appropriate time. I was shocked no one else was doing that. I hope the clean up crew got some O/T for that.
I always joke that my two favorite Musicals are The Sound Of Music and Rocky Horror. I will admit that a lot of times i would find myself napping through the second half of Rocky Horror ...But the first half from Science Fiction Double Feature through Hot Patootie absolutely knocked me out.
@Jerseyfornia I went see it as part of a Halloween night in 2016, four films for £4 and it was the first one, starting around 10pm-ish. I had no clue about about fan participation and, only wanting to watch the film, I was both staggered and wound up by every shout of "Slut!" and person in front of me standing up to dance. If I knew I wouldn't have minded, but I didn't and wanted to watch young Susan Sarandon in awe hahaha!
Thought of you right away JF...... and all i can do is repeat what thought came to me even though i am repeating what has been said on this thread already ...He is with Jim where he belongs. 😪
I wrote one for Jim Steinman, so I had to write one for Meat Loaf...
Rest In Hell
Rest in hell and let the devil take your soul
He'll give you back your voice so you can rock and roll
If that's where you went to, tell them Jimmy sent you
I hear they all ride motorcycles down the bottom of that hole
You don't need a band of angels, you don't need a holy choir
Just ten boney fingers and a grand piano on fire
You don't need a band of angels, you don't beed a holy choir
Just a fallen priestess and a dashboard light desire
You don't need a band of angels
They won't save your soul, as hard as angels pray
When it's breaking out of your body and flying away
Rest in hell with all the lost boys never found
And all those golden girls who took it underground
If that's where you've went to, tell them Jimmy sent you
I hear the tolling of a bell, I hear the barking of a hound
Just one guitar burning on a raging funeral pyre
Just a haunted hot rod and the smell of burning tires
They can't save your soul for that's the toll you pay
And the last thing we hear is your heart still beating
This is so sad and unexpected... He was epic, a true legend...
@Jerseyfornia maybe you could pick one of his albums for the album club, to honor him? Maybe this could become a regular practice in case of a death in the music business that affects us...
An homage. Just an idea.
That's a great idea. Let's let @Brown Eyed Boy post his selection first and then we'll pay homage to Meat Loaf.
This is insane... I've actually never seen this before. I'm a fuvkin' amateur.
The Melbourne Symphony DVD is tremendous.
Thanks for this ...... I had never seen it. and while i dont think i have ever seen or heard a live performance of this material that is better than that perfect album .... The Symphony on this was fantastic. I know we are mourning Mr Aday here ...But all i could think of again was the absolute brilliance of Jim Steinmans song writing.
@Early North Jersey It's impossible to think of or discuss either man without including the other. Bat Out Of Hell might be the only album to not just launch a career, but become the career.
Man, I could've sworn he was Marvin Lee Aday, but googled it because I didn't want to be a dick in such circumstances and saw Michael Lee Aday so used that. When did that change? Not that it matters, for all intents and purposes he's Meatlof to us.
Marvin was his name.
I thought there was a guy who did a Meat Loaf tribute show who went by Michael Lee Aday.
I've seen two articles today that also said Marvin Lee Aday sometimes AKA Michael. In 40 years of fandom, I've never once heard this before.
I shared Meat Loaf with my MC brothers just a few weeks ago, when we were talking about motorcycle songs. Most of them didn't know Bat Out Of Hell and the two who had heard had no idea it was about a motorcycle crash.
I schooled them well about how to properly die in the saddle.
Teenage Heartbreak ending with the ultimate rock and roll suicide. You could literally feel yourself careening off that cliff. And of course it came out at a time where for a lot of us ...the pain was real.
But with every other beat i got left in my heart......
He and Jim created an alternate universe together where lost boys stay young and golden girls never lose their shine. A world built on the twin pillars of teenage lust and rock and roll.
His time here is done. His voice was shot, his health was failing and his glory had been fading into glory days for some time.
I knew there would never be another record, but I'll miss him. I'm glad he's reunited with Jim, though, in some dashboard light paradise.
I saw this on SHF earlier, came here to see if there was a thread and the first thought I had was this is going to hit Rick hard...
Sorry JF... I know he was an important part of your life and musical diet...
Funny, I had my Spotify playlist on random about three hours ago and Bruce's House Of A Thousand guitars came on. And I literally thought to myself again how much that song sounded like almost the hungover sequel to so much of Jim Steinman and Meatloaf's music together.
It's like Bat Out Of Hell / Paradise By The Dashboard Light / Rock And Roll Dreams Come Through etc are the actual Saturday night, while House Of A Thousand Guitars is the late Sunday morning / early afternoon... a little dusty and slower, but your heart and soul is already repairing and preparing itself for the next Saturday night.
I'm 99.99% certain this wasn't what Bruce intended with that song, although a piano based ballad celebrating guitars clearly had an intended below level subtext IMO. It just sounds one of a piece with so much of the Meatloaf/Steinman oeuvre musically it makes a connection in my little musical soul, anyway.